Don’t come here expecting spoilers for future counties- It’s all Gates County all the time in Episode 37.  Chris notes a defining feature of Gates County, the Chowan River, which leads Matt to wonder what the weirdest ocean creature to make its way up the Albermarle sound up the Chowan River is- which somehow wound up with Matt singing Amazing Grace as a manta ray.

Chris compares the population of Gates County (12,197) with the number of IBM employees in the triangle and the capacity of Duke’s Cameron Indoor Stadium. Matt wonders whether Bill Gates could buy Gates county outright- and whether it would come with the furniture and the pigs.

Chris notices that about .5% of Gates County’s current population- or about 60 people- identify as Native American, but was originally inhabited by Nottoway, Meherrin, Chesapeake, Chowanoac, and Nansemond Indians. Matt romanticizes Jodie Foster’s travels in the new world.

Gates County is considered Coastal Plain or tidwater- not quite an IBX member, but just up the Chowan river from Albermarle Sound. A defining feature of Gates County is the Merchants Millpond State Park, presumably home to many corn dog plants aka Cattails- evidently many parts of which can be eaten.

While Merchants Millpond State Park is mentioned on the Gates County Seal it is not featured- you may want to bring a pillow if you want to dissect the county seal.

Chris couldn’t find a beer from Gates County so he toasted Gates County with a Magic Visions Ale from Aviator Brewing Company. Meanwhile Matt recorded leprechaun pirate style, sans beer or rum.

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Matt and Chris take in the lights as they drive through Gaston County. Chris considers a CountyBoysPodcast.com kickstarter to acquire… countyboys dot com. Matt notes that Gaston County is hosting a free public showing of Beauty and Beast one week in the future- in the past.

Matt notes the legal bullying that got the county seat moved from Dallas to Gastonia.  (Not really).  Chris wonders about the government and business structures necessary to curtail the scourge of… stray dogs. Matt notes how great Alpaca looks when you are hungry.  Chris distinguishes between Kings Pinnacle of Gaston County, the city of Kings Mountain in Cleveland County, and Kings Mountain in South Carolina, site of the famous 1780 Revolutionary war battle.

Courtesy of Tazz250Matt imagines war as a video game (fancy that). Chris discusses the county’s namesake William Gaston, kind of a big deal in 19th century North Carolina- and also Georgetown’s first enrollee (yay!) and first dropout (boo). Meanwhile Matt and Chris compare early admittances against Billy G’s election to the North Carolina State Senate at 22 years old and US Congress at 35 years old.

Matt reminisces about the peaches of youth and wonders about former giant inhabitants of North Carolina. Chris embraces terrible foods. Matt discusses his sleeping arrangements which may or may not be the most amazing thing ever.

Matt and Chris discuss the Mill town politics and the textile strike of the 1920s that happened in Gaston County.

Matt and Chris toast Gaston county with a Mountain Candy beer from Sycamore Brewing located in neighboring Mecklenburg County. (Chris is a big fan of Mountain Candy and you can add him on Untappd).

McAdenville aka Christmas Town USA is home to an annual town-wide Christmas light show that Chris visited in his childhood.  You can see some of the lights on youtube:

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Matt and Chris harmonize over Franklin County, a “Research Triangle Region Community”.

Chris talks about not-long-for-this-world Bute County and the Duke of Earl, the exploits of Benjamin Franklin, and the Tuscarora Indians. Matt notes the downfalls of wearing Franklins. Chris wonders about the pronunciation of Franklin County’s seat, Louisburg.  (Charming since 1779!)  Matt pitches Franklin County livin’ for its proximity to the Triangle.

Matt bombs the quiz concerning the town of Franklin and the county of Franklin. Chris tries to navigate the waters of the Tar River.

Chris notices that Franklin County is home fo the World Whistling Championship… and promptly gets sucked into an internet blackhole of whistling.  It’s all true.

Perhaps Chris should have looked harder for some of the beer on the banks of the Tar River flowing through Franklin County. As it is Chris toasted Franklin County with a Skillet Stout from Buncombe County’s Burial Beer, while Matt throws down with Some L.A. Crow Ten.

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In episode 34 Matt and Chris bridge the hyphenated spans of Forsyth County, North Carolina’s fourth most populous county.

Forsyth County is located in North Carolina’s piedmont, a word with surprising italian origins.  The biggest city in Forsyth County is Winston hyphen Salem.  Young Salem was founded in 1766, while Winston was founded much later in 1849 (but named in 1851).  The two cities merged in 1913, leading to the moniker twin-cities, and Matt is ready for the Minneapolis v Winston-Salem showdown.

Forsyth County was named after Colonel Benjamin Forsyth, famous for his exploits in the War of 1812.  Although Chris argues that was the only time Washington DC was conquered by a foreign occupying force, Matt seems to recall a few other invasions.

We toast Forsyth County with a Jade IPA from Foothills Brewery in Forsyth County.  Foothills Brewery began brewing in 2005 in Winston-Salem, and is now the second largest craft brewer in North Carolina (by beer production).

Apart from Foothills Brewery and RJ Reynolds Tobacco, Winston-Salem is also home to Krispy Kreme donuts, founded in the hyphen in 1937 by Vernon Rudolph. Winston-Salem was also home to the headquarters of Wachovia Bank, and still home to the tallest building in the Carolinas outside of Raleigh and Charlotte.

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In episode 33 Matt and Chris don’t just hang out on the perimeter- but dig in to the juicy middle of Edgecombe County, with imagined graphical accompaniment.

Edgecumbe was formed in 1741 and unfortunately for the county’s namesake Richard Edgcumbe, the county founders got the spelling wrong. But Richard wasn’t an LP and Chris couldn’t really figure out why this guy was deserving of a county anyway.  So at the end of the day maybe that’s why it was misspelled- folks just didn’t care all that much about him.

The Tuscarora Indians of Edgecombe County had multiple towns- and they did not get along with each other. As it turns out one of the factions of the Tuscarora Indians played a role in the history of other NC counties- specifically Chief Hancock who captured John LawsonChristoph von Graffenried.  Hancock ultimately killed Lawson- which did not work out well for Lawson or Hancock’s lower town Tuscarora Indians.

Donkeys or large pieces of ice? Tarboro, formerly Tarrburg, is Edgecombe County’s county seat.

In an alternate reality Matt and Chris toast Edgecombe county with a brew from Tarboro Brewing Company. As for this Earth, we could not find any TBC beer in time for recording.

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In episode 32 Matt and Chris get the lowdown on Dr D, the bull of Durham, Duke University, and Black Wall Street- all of Durham County North Carolina.

Before diving in, Matt and Chris play a little game of Operation on North Carolina to try and find the heart of North Carolina.  Matt plans a romantic getaway.  Chris treads down the Great Trading Path with the Siouan-speaking Eno Native Americans.

Chris warns all listeners away from chewing tobacco. Somehow the subject of hobos comes up again. Matt wonders about the relationship between Bladen County resident Wesley Snipes and Dr. D.

Matt and Chris toast Durham county with a Rocket Science IPA from Durham’s own Fullsteam Brewery.  Somehow we did not wind up drinking a Cackalacky from Fullsteam.

Durham County’s County Seat and practically only city is Durham, not surprisingly.  Unfortunately, no Lords Proprietors are mentioned in relation to Durham County.

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Matt and Chris attempt to toast Duplin County with a glass of Hatteras Red from Duplin Winery.  Chris questions the tasting notes of Hatteras Red and has his faith in Amazon ratings shaken.


Matt notes one specific utility of Duplin County’s location proximate the highway to the beach.  Chris discusses the namesake of Duplin County, Thomas Hay, Lord Duplin.  Unfortunately a Lord, but not an LP. Chris also notes that Duplin County is spelled slightly differently than Thomas Hay’s title, Viscount Dupplin.  Matt imagines the County Boys podcast souped up with radio show sound effects.  Chris notes that there used to be another Duplin in the United States- in New Hampshire- but the Hampshirites decided Lempster was a better name.

Duplin County has lots of hogs, and for that Chris gives thanks since he loves bbq. Matt compares the human population of Houston (2.2 million people) to the hog population of Duplin County (2.2 million pigs), and attempts to annoint the giant pig city in Duplin County as “Pigtropolis” or better yet “Pigtropholis”. Chris is somewhat dismayed that Duplin County doesn’t have a bigger bbq presence based on its hog population.

Duplin County plays a part in North Carolina Giant Husbandry, as it is home to a gigantic frying pan, (purportedly the world’s largest frying pan).  Despite the hog population in Duplin the frying pan is actually used for frying lots of chickens.  Or one gigantic chicken.  Either way.  Rose Hill is home to said largest frying pan and the North Carolina Poultry Jubilee, which as far as I can tell is the only day of the year when the frying pan is put to use.  Duplin County is also home to the Carolina Strawberry Festival and the North Carolina Muscadine Harvest Festival.  (Correction to the podcast: Duplin County does not host the NC Pickle Festival).

The biggest city of Duplin County is Kenansville, its County Seat.  The County Boys do not advise searching for pickle husbandry.

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