In episode 32 Matt and Chris get the lowdown on Dr D, the bull of Durham, Duke University, and Black Wall Street- all of Durham County North Carolina.
Before diving in, Matt and Chris play a little game of Operation on North Carolina to try and find the heart of North Carolina. Matt plans a romantic getaway. Chris treads down the Great Trading Path with the Siouan-speaking Eno Native Americans.
Chris warns all listeners away from chewing tobacco. Somehow the subject of hobos comes up again. Matt wonders about the relationship between Bladen County resident Wesley Snipes and Dr. D.
Matt and Chris toast Durham county with a Rocket Science IPA from Durham’s own Fullsteam Brewery. Somehow we did not wind up drinking a Cackalacky from Fullsteam.
Durham County’s County Seat and practically only city is Durham, not surprisingly. Unfortunately, no Lords Proprietors are mentioned in relation to Durham County.
In episode 33 Matt and Chris don’t just hang out on the perimeter- but dig in to the juicy middle of Edgecombe County, with imagined graphical accompaniment.
Edgecumbe was formed in 1741 and unfortunately for the county’s namesake Richard Edgcumbe, the county founders got the spelling wrong. But Richard wasn’t an LP and Chris couldn’t really figure out why this guy was deserving of a county anyway. So at the end of the day maybe that’s why it was misspelled- folks just didn’t care all that much about him.
The Tuscarora Indians of Edgecombe County had multiple towns- and they did not get along with each other. As it turns out one of the factions of the Tuscarora Indians played a role in the history of other NC counties- specifically Chief Hancock who captured John Lawson & Christoph von Graffenried.Hancock ultimately killed Lawson- which did not work out well for Lawson or Hancock’s lower town Tuscarora Indians.
Donkeys or large pieces of ice? Tarboro, formerly Tarrburg, is Edgecombe County’s county seat.
In an alternate reality Matt and Chris toast Edgecombe county with a brew from Tarboro Brewing Company. As for this Earth, we could not find any TBC beer in time for recording.
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Matt notes one specific utility of Duplin County’s location proximate the highway to the beach. Chris discusses the namesake of Duplin County, Thomas Hay, Lord Duplin. Unfortunately a Lord, but not an LP. Chris also notes that Duplin County is spelled slightly differently than Thomas Hay’s title, Viscount Dupplin. Matt imagines the County Boys podcast souped up with radio show sound effects. Chris notes that there used to be another Duplin in the United States- in New Hampshire- but the Hampshirites decided Lempster was a better name.
Duplin County has lots of hogs, and for that Chris gives thanks since he loves bbq. Matt compares the human population of Houston (2.2 million people) to the hog population of Duplin County (2.2 million pigs), and attempts to annoint the giant pig city in Duplin County as “Pigtropolis” or better yet “Pigtropholis”. Chris is somewhat dismayed that Duplin County doesn’t have a bigger bbq presence based on its hog population.
Duplin County plays a part in North Carolina Giant Husbandry, as it is home to a gigantic frying pan, (purportedly the world’s largest frying pan). Despite the hog population in Duplin the frying pan is actually used for frying lots of chickens. Or one gigantic chicken. Either way. Rose Hill is home to said largest frying pan and the North Carolina Poultry Jubilee, which as far as I can tell is the only day of the year when the frying pan is put to use. Duplin County is also home to the Carolina Strawberry Festival and the North Carolina Muscadine Harvest Festival. (Correction to the podcast: Duplin County does not host the NC Pickle Festival).
The biggest city of Duplin County is Kenansville, its County Seat. The County Boys do not advise searching for pickle husbandry.
Matt gets… somewhat excited about the boundaries of Davie County, which include the Yadkin River to the east, and to the south with… the South Yadkin River. Chris questions the sources on where exactly High Rock Lake begins- which may be the confluence of the Yadkin and South Yadkin Rivers, but might actually be in the town of Yadkin.
Speaking of the geography of Davie County, Matt and Chris debate the pronunciation of the Piedmont. Next Chris and Matt discuss the county’s RiverPark at Cooleemee, home to the famous Bull Hole. Matt reminisces about the Jesus reunion tour ’86 which may have gone through Jerusalem but probably did not go through Mocksville, which evidently is a hotbed of crime.
Speaking of Mocksville, Chris discusses the Daniel Boone Family Festival of Mocksville and Boone’s Cave Park just across the Yadkin River from Davie County. The County Boys get excited about a cameo appearance of a Lords Proprietor.
Matt dives deep into Davie County’s NC Bike Fest (NSF normal people).
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Matt reminisces about his two uneventful trips to Davidson County. Chris discusses the surprisingly high population of Davidson County. Matt discusses Pat Summit and the amateur and professional basketball career of Davidson (College) graduate Woodrow Wilson. Chris speculates about whether the Sapona Indians hold a grudge about losing their river name. Matt notices the dichotomy between Thomasville being home to the big chair but not being the county seat of Davidson County.
Davidson County is associated with a handful of famous- or semi-famous people, including its namesake Brigadier General William Lee Davidson, Revolutionary War patriot, and Thomasville’s namesake John W. Thomas.
Chris and Matt toast Davidson County with a Fearrington Summer from Durham County’s Fullsteam Brewery. Appropriate in Chris’ mind since sweet tea goes well with barbecue. After having perhaps too much Fearrington Summer, Matt volunteers various places he aint too proud to swim.
Chris lays out the differences between ‘western’ or Lexington style barbecue and ‘eastern’ style barbecue. Matt recommends BBQJew.com for its domain name and bbq reviews. Matt wonders if it is enough in life to be delicious.
The boys also talk about High Rock Lake, a bit about the Uwharrie Mountains, and Thomasville’s Everybody’s Day.
Chris and Matt discuss the different meanings of the term “dynamic”. Chris notes that the phrase “from Murphy to Manteo” does not even reach to the easternmost point of Dare County (which isn’t even on Bodie Island, the island sitting directly east of Manteo). Matt express his preference to live in less populated times, an opinion immediately dismissed by Chris.
Chris notes that the famous Lost Colony wasn’t even the original lost colony on Roanoke Island. Matt wonders how similar the show Lost is to the mystery of the Lost Colony. Chris notes that while the Indian Manteo may have been a Lord, he was not a Lord Proprietor. Chris gives Matt naming advice for when he buys a boat. Matt is tempted by the Mother Vine.
Chris dispels the notion of an island named Bodie. Matt takes particular notice of how peninsula is (not in fact) spelled. Matt is blown away by Currituck’s county seal.
The LPs make another appearance on the County Boys via Currituck County’s predecessor Albermarle County which is named after George Monck, 1st Duke of Albermarle and a Lords Proprietor.
Matt is overjoyed to learn that the town (or unincorporated community) of Currituck is located in Currituck County- and is the county seat. Chris shines some light on Fresnel lenses and Currituck Beach Lighthouse.
Matt may or may not unearth the birthplace of one of the most successful cars the Toyota Corolla.
Chris gets super excited about the Digger’s Dungeon, home to one of the most popular monster trucks Gravedigger.